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		<title>By: Panarin was wrong &#171; Pied Type</title>
		<link>http://piedtype.com/2009/01/01/panarins-disintegration-usa-ends-in-2010/#comment-4591</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Panarin was wrong &#171; Pied Type]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 00:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] years ago a Russian professor named Igor Panarin predicted the disintegration of the USA in 2010. Granted, it was a lousy year. But we got through it. The USA, obviously stronger than the [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://piedtype.com/2009/01/01/panarins-disintegration-usa-ends-in-2010/#comment-4564</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 22:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First, someone said &quot;Canada wouldn&#039;t make a move.&quot; Well it&#039;s true that we (Canada) don&#039;t need to take anything, Canada would take as much as possible, especially the U.S. Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico, which aren&#039;t mentioned. Canada would take the Central North-American Republic because it would improve the economy and lessen the growth of China, but mainly because under China and Mexico, the quality of life would drop, meaning that the Central North-American Republic, upon realizing the choice between Mexico, China and Canada, would choose to join Canada, just like how during the end of World War 2, many Germans surrendered to the allies in the west, preferring to be assimilated by the merciful west than slaughtered and raped by the vicious soviets in the east.
Now, the OP expressed concerns about family living in the projected Texas Republic, and the possibility of a border fence. I doubt that a border fence would be a problem, as Canada&#039;s not stupid enough to blow a fortune building one. As for whether you&#039;ll be able to see your Oklahoman family, I don&#039;t know for sure, but I do have a prediction. First, due to Canada&#039;s immigration policy, American refugees will be accepted in Canada. Second, it would probably be easiest for Canada to offer citizenship to all American citizens. It may cost a lot of money, but it&#039;d probably be easiest to set it up so that anyone with an American citizenship would be able to go to a local government office and exchange their paperwork for Canadian paperwork, and their to prevent all Americans being horribly poor due to the fact that the US dollar will obviously be next to worthless, but US money from these new Canadian citizens at par ($1US for $1Canadian). I really think the hardest part would be pushing the former Americans towards the left wing (so Canada doesn&#039;t suddenly become flooded with people that are farther right than our conservative party), and getting rid of all the guns (Canada will not grant you the right to bear arms.)
Getting back to the US Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico. No Canadian in their right mind would say no to at least one tropical paradise. We&#039;ll take Guantanamo Bay, too - turn it into a beach resort- but we&#039;re not taking your prisoners.
Just one thing, I don&#039;t think that the 15 states that would join Canada would remain states - Canada is a single nation, not a confederation. Either they&#039;d be divided between British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and Ontario (probably by straight, vertical lines), or they&#039;d become one or two big provinces, or a combination. They&#039;d probably become new provinces so that they don&#039;t unbalance the current demographics, but I&#039;d still like to see the great rectangle that is Saskatchewan become even longer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, someone said &#8220;Canada wouldn&#8217;t make a move.&#8221; Well it&#8217;s true that we (Canada) don&#8217;t need to take anything, Canada would take as much as possible, especially the U.S. Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico, which aren&#8217;t mentioned. Canada would take the Central North-American Republic because it would improve the economy and lessen the growth of China, but mainly because under China and Mexico, the quality of life would drop, meaning that the Central North-American Republic, upon realizing the choice between Mexico, China and Canada, would choose to join Canada, just like how during the end of World War 2, many Germans surrendered to the allies in the west, preferring to be assimilated by the merciful west than slaughtered and raped by the vicious soviets in the east.<br />
Now, the OP expressed concerns about family living in the projected Texas Republic, and the possibility of a border fence. I doubt that a border fence would be a problem, as Canada&#8217;s not stupid enough to blow a fortune building one. As for whether you&#8217;ll be able to see your Oklahoman family, I don&#8217;t know for sure, but I do have a prediction. First, due to Canada&#8217;s immigration policy, American refugees will be accepted in Canada. Second, it would probably be easiest for Canada to offer citizenship to all American citizens. It may cost a lot of money, but it&#8217;d probably be easiest to set it up so that anyone with an American citizenship would be able to go to a local government office and exchange their paperwork for Canadian paperwork, and their to prevent all Americans being horribly poor due to the fact that the US dollar will obviously be next to worthless, but US money from these new Canadian citizens at par ($1US for $1Canadian). I really think the hardest part would be pushing the former Americans towards the left wing (so Canada doesn&#8217;t suddenly become flooded with people that are farther right than our conservative party), and getting rid of all the guns (Canada will not grant you the right to bear arms.)<br />
Getting back to the US Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico. No Canadian in their right mind would say no to at least one tropical paradise. We&#8217;ll take Guantanamo Bay, too &#8211; turn it into a beach resort- but we&#8217;re not taking your prisoners.<br />
Just one thing, I don&#8217;t think that the 15 states that would join Canada would remain states &#8211; Canada is a single nation, not a confederation. Either they&#8217;d be divided between British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and Ontario (probably by straight, vertical lines), or they&#8217;d become one or two big provinces, or a combination. They&#8217;d probably become new provinces so that they don&#8217;t unbalance the current demographics, but I&#8217;d still like to see the great rectangle that is Saskatchewan become even longer.</p>
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		<title>By: jmac</title>
		<link>http://piedtype.com/2009/01/01/panarins-disintegration-usa-ends-in-2010/#comment-2917</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 12:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay David, 
I will take Palin, but in return you gotta take Hillary Clinton]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay David,<br />
I will take Palin, but in return you gotta take Hillary Clinton</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://piedtype.com/2009/01/01/panarins-disintegration-usa-ends-in-2010/#comment-1557</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 09:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I heard a little about this story before, but I hadn&#039;t realized the extent of the nonsense here. This guy is completely full of it.

First off, China hasn&#039;t shown any interest in expanding and aquiring new territory. If they were going to do so, they&#039;d more likely take it from Siberia. It&#039;s easier, it&#039;s closer and less populated.

Second, I have a tough time imagining any crisis that results in a &quot;civil war&quot; in the USA. Even the Great Depression didn&#039;t bring one, though we were close.

As to one of the previous commenters:

&lt;blockquote&gt;But…I don’t think foreign intervention will cause the demise of the republic. Rather, I think the Government will never be paid back for these insane “bailouts” and go completely bankrupt. This will be followed by massive civil unrest and food riots, in which the President will have no choice but to declare martial law in most major cities and send the Army in to put down the unrest. Congress will hand over a military dictatorship to the executive branch as the only means to save the United States. Our republic was based on that of Rome, our empire is based on that of Rome, and our future outlook will be much the same as Rome&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Never. Gonna. Happen. The Roman Republic was built on an even shakier foundation than the USA and didn&#039;t have any of the constitutional safeguards we have now. There&#039;s no precedent at all for &quot;food riots&quot;, whatever those are, and as far as I&#039;m aware there&#039;s never been any declaration of martial law in the USA, except in some small areas of the country bordering the CSA during the Civil War.

Now, that said, why wouldn&#039;t the government be paid back? This crisis is bad, sure, but it&#039;s not 1929 and it&#039;s not nearly as severe as the crisis then was. Besides, the government could cover the costs of the bailouts within a couple years by cutting the military in half. Not likely, I&#039;ll admit, but not impossible either.

The country recovered and we went on to do quite well. I&#039;ve no doubt that by the end of 2010, far from this nation destroying itself, we&#039;ll be better and more stable than we&#039;ve been in a long time.

&lt;strong&gt;[I must admit I prefer your assessment to Adam&#039;s and Panarin&#039;s. Since it&#039;s out of my hands anyway, I&#039;d like to believe I&#039;m on relatively solid ground.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard a little about this story before, but I hadn&#8217;t realized the extent of the nonsense here. This guy is completely full of it.</p>
<p>First off, China hasn&#8217;t shown any interest in expanding and aquiring new territory. If they were going to do so, they&#8217;d more likely take it from Siberia. It&#8217;s easier, it&#8217;s closer and less populated.</p>
<p>Second, I have a tough time imagining any crisis that results in a &#8220;civil war&#8221; in the USA. Even the Great Depression didn&#8217;t bring one, though we were close.</p>
<p>As to one of the previous commenters:</p>
<blockquote><p>But…I don’t think foreign intervention will cause the demise of the republic. Rather, I think the Government will never be paid back for these insane “bailouts” and go completely bankrupt. This will be followed by massive civil unrest and food riots, in which the President will have no choice but to declare martial law in most major cities and send the Army in to put down the unrest. Congress will hand over a military dictatorship to the executive branch as the only means to save the United States. Our republic was based on that of Rome, our empire is based on that of Rome, and our future outlook will be much the same as Rome</p></blockquote>
<p>Never. Gonna. Happen. The Roman Republic was built on an even shakier foundation than the USA and didn&#8217;t have any of the constitutional safeguards we have now. There&#8217;s no precedent at all for &#8220;food riots&#8221;, whatever those are, and as far as I&#8217;m aware there&#8217;s never been any declaration of martial law in the USA, except in some small areas of the country bordering the CSA during the Civil War.</p>
<p>Now, that said, why wouldn&#8217;t the government be paid back? This crisis is bad, sure, but it&#8217;s not 1929 and it&#8217;s not nearly as severe as the crisis then was. Besides, the government could cover the costs of the bailouts within a couple years by cutting the military in half. Not likely, I&#8217;ll admit, but not impossible either.</p>
<p>The country recovered and we went on to do quite well. I&#8217;ve no doubt that by the end of 2010, far from this nation destroying itself, we&#8217;ll be better and more stable than we&#8217;ve been in a long time.</p>
<p><strong>[I must admit I prefer your assessment to Adam's and Panarin's. Since it's out of my hands anyway, I'd like to believe I'm on relatively solid ground.]</strong></p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://piedtype.com/2009/01/01/panarins-disintegration-usa-ends-in-2010/#comment-1556</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOL on the Russia taking Palin! Maybe that&#039;s how she came up with all those weird names for her 27 children?? They&#039;re &lt;i&gt;Russky&lt;/i&gt; names!

As a citizen of the future Atlantic America, I vote to go with Canada. Also, I think that since I&#039;m beating the balloting rush, my vote should count as ten million votes, especially if we&#039;re under martial law. :)


&lt;strong&gt;[All I know is when the breakup occurs, I don&#039;t want to get stuck anywhere near Sarah Palin. I see absolutely no good coming from hanging around that woman.]
&lt;/strong&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL on the Russia taking Palin! Maybe that&#8217;s how she came up with all those weird names for her 27 children?? They&#8217;re <i>Russky</i> names!</p>
<p>As a citizen of the future Atlantic America, I vote to go with Canada. Also, I think that since I&#8217;m beating the balloting rush, my vote should count as ten million votes, especially if we&#8217;re under martial law. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><strong>[All I know is when the breakup occurs, I don't want to get stuck anywhere near Sarah Palin. I see absolutely no good coming from hanging around that woman.]<br />
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		<title>By: Pandi in New York</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pandi in New York]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 15:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bring on the universal health care, German cars, British comedy, French food, and Italian men! Sigh...I TOLD my sister not to move to Florida.


&lt;strong&gt;[But at least she&#039;ll get to eat burritos on the beach.]&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bring on the universal health care, German cars, British comedy, French food, and Italian men! Sigh&#8230;I TOLD my sister not to move to Florida.</p>
<p><strong>[But at least she'll get to eat burritos on the beach.]</strong></p>
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