NFL: They did it to themselves

20 thoughts on “NFL: They did it to themselves”

  1. Good grief PT, I don’t even know where to begin. I know that I can’t recall a time when hearing the national anthem didn’t bring tears to my eyes. I also know that I resent the way entities like the NFL use the national anthem to paint themselves as being “as American as apple pie.” Frankly, the whole thing makes me a little queasy…

    1. It’s very unsettling, even frightening, to see how our society is fragmenting and how things as important and, I thought, inviolate, as our flag and national anthem, are being disrespected to advance personal political agendas. What happens when nothing is sacred anymore?

        1. Maybe it’s been going on for a long time and only since retirement have I had time to really think about it. But honestly there are days when I think our society is circling the drain. Certainly our political system is through the drain and well on its way to the sewer.

        2. I wouldn’t trust that clown to walk me across the street, much less deal with a major problem. Of course, his idea of a major problem would be, say, getting only one scoop of ice cream instead of two.

  2. The thing that pinhead-Trump will never grasp is that because of our troops, we are (still) free to protest, support, kneel, stand, do jumping jacks, etc. at any time. It is our right supported by the Constitution.

    Also, what goes through my head is that the act of kneeling is typically akin to an act of reverence, worship or submission. So if they kneel during the National Anthem, are they not actually worshiping it?

    1. I actually tried to imagine what would cause me to kneel like that Michelle, and what I came up with is very close to what you said. I’d be kneeling in reverence for the supposed lives of freedom and equality that the flag and anthem purports that we all have here.

    2. I seriously doubt that is their intention. And they’ve said as much.

      Yes, we have freedom of speech, but one still doesn’t shout “fire!” in a crowded theater. Protesters on the street need a parade permit. Silent picketers on the sidewalks aren’t allowed to block public access. There are laws against porn. And violence. And destruction of property. Our freedom of speech has many limits and restrictions. If football players want to demonstrate at their games, they have the right. Whether or not it’s a wise thing to do is something else again.

      1. Oh, there’s no doubt they were kneeling in protest. They’ve made that very clear. Just commenting that the act of kneeling is used to show reverence.

  3. It can only get worse in the US I believe; until trump is deposed it’s a downhill slide for the American people.

    I must admit that the Australian National Anthem does absolutely nothing for me. It’s a mish mash of meaningless words set to the music of “God Bless The Prince of Wales” would you believe.

    I must also admit standing for the American another and feeling a sense of pride when in New York at the Lincoln Centre for the 4th of July concert in 2008. It’s a stirring anthem which surely must instill pride in the American people. I find it hard to believe that they are denigrating it and what it stands for.

    There are undoubtedly those that are the sheep, following the leader having no idea why they are protesting which is in one sense pitiable.

    Will the US ever recover their position and regain the respect and admiration; grudgingly given by many nations; that they once had?

    Frankly and personally I don’t think they can, and I grieve for my grandchildren, who are to grow in a world, that appears to this old man at least, to be tearing itself apart and into shreds with not one nation able/capable to step up to the plate to bring order from the chaos.

    There will, in all probability, be no plate to step up to, and the consequences are too horrific to think about.

    1. Well, drat, the comment I wrote disappeared.

      Anyway, thank you for respecting our anthem. I’d would do the same for yours or any other. It’s customary for everyone to respect everyone’s anthem, as is usually demonstrated at the Olympics (the only exception I can recall is 1968, when several of our athletes gave a Black Power salute during the anthem).

  4. Patriotism, for most people, is not something to be reexamined but rather something visceral. Black athletes are right to deplore inequality and abuse by a small minority of police but they are dead wrong in acting unpatriotic to get attention on the issue. Instead, they reap disgust and enhance the cultural divide. Having Trump as a president who panders to his bigoted base completes the perfect storm. If this were the plot of a movie a year ago, it would be rejected as too fantastical.

    1. I figure when the fans stop coming to the games and stop watching on TV, and the sponsors start dropping their support of players and networks, the protests will likely end. You can’t expect support from those whose patiotism you deride.

... and that's my two cents