It’s about choice and respect

22 thoughts on “It’s about choice and respect”

  1. Can we agree to disagree? How can you resort to the “Choice” language and ignore the facts that it takes two to tango, you are stripping men of their rights, second you have the choice not to engage in sex outside of marriage. And don’t drop the rape, incest, danger to the mother, etc argument that Planned Parenthood has always trotted out. Can you tell me that the people who get abortions are making informed choices?

    1. Of course we can agree to disagree. But don’t diss Planned Parenthood in my presence. My dad was an ob/gyn who helped found one of PP’s chapters. And he didn’t do abortions. He gave valuable health care and information to women who could not afford to get it elsewhere. Routine care like treating minor illnesses; screening for cancer, STDs, HPV, and HIV; distributing contraceptives; family planning education; issues of fertility and sexual dysfunction. Basic health services for both women and men.

      Stripping men of their rights? Which rights? Having sex outside of marriage whenever they want because they don’t have to worry about getting pregnant? Walking away from women they impregnated because they don’t want the responsibility? How ’bout being responsible enough to only have sex with women you love and want to spend you life with, raising a family together?

      Personally, I think abortion is an agonizing decision for most women, one that is prompted by being financially and/or emotionally unable to properly raise and care for a child (or another child). Parenthood, after all, is a lifetime commitment. But I don’t have the figures to support that, any more than you do.

      I’m not “resorting” to the choice language. I’m stating the crux of the matter. The law gives women a choice about their bodies. They can choose to have an abortion if they wish. They can choose to have a baby if they wish. You and yours can choose not to get involved if you wish. And it’s only common decency to stay out of the very personal, private, legal decisions of women you don’t even know. Choice means choosing for yourself, not for somebody else.

      1. I try to stay civil and have civil discussions, but it’s a hot button topic with me, as it is with a lot of people. As you stated at the outset, we will have to agree to disagree.

    2. Just wanted to share my personal experience with Planned Parenthood…. At the tender age of 15, almost 16, I discovered sex. Wasn’t until I was 16, though, that I participated more. My boyfriend at the time used a condom, but I never felt safe with it so I decided to get on birth control pill. My best friend at this time was in her 3rd trimester. I had plans to go to college so didn’t want to end up like her. My parents were ‘old school.’ There is no way in this universe I was able go to my mother to get on the pill. Thankfully, Planned Parenthood was available. And back in those days, they weren’t struggling to stay open. Planned Parenthood allowed under age girls to come in and discuss birth control for the very reason I went there. They would rather do that then have girls getting pregnant. So off I went. I was terrified my mother would see my car (it was a school-bus-yellow 72 Maverick – it stood out). She never did. Of if she did, she never mentioned it. So I had my first pap smear and left with 12 months of birth control pill and it didn’t cost me a cent.

      Yes, some PP locations do abortions, but not many. They provide so many other services that are direly needed by the girls and women in our country. Rather than have to decide to get an abortion or not, do what you need to do to not get pregnant.

      I will always support PP because they helped me at a very important time in my life. I continued using PP up until I was about 35 years old.

  2. They annoy me too. They just want to push their religious views into law. It’s their arrogance and supposed Christian superiority that says a whole lot about their “true” character. And who gets the most abortions? It’s the poor and minorities. The very people these guys don’t want to have any funding for, any low cost healthcare, free birth control and any aid for the disenfranchised in our country. Talk about hypocrites!

    1. Planned Parenthood services help reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies and abortions. Isn’t that what we all want? I’ve never understood the opposition to that.

  3. Drilling down on the abortion issue, it seems to me that the anti-abortion movement operates from a flawed premise, i.e. that (human) life begins at conception. I submit that it does not and also, that even if God exists, he does not intend that it does. Fetal development is a continuum with no definable point at which self-awareness becomes evident. The evidence is that about half of all conceptions are naturally aborted. You can look it up.

    Eggs and sperm are produced in large numbers and almost all are wasted along with the potential people they represent. Also, consider the adverse effects of having an unlimited number of children, financial and on the mother’s health. The notion that God controls the number of children is as absurd as that he will protect people from earthquakes and tsunamis if they pray hard enough.

    1. That’s basically what I tried to convey. Make your own decision. Respect the right of others to do the same. The pros, cons, and heated rhetoric are irrelevant.

  4. Thanks for tackling a difficult subject with compassion and intelligence, Pied Piper. I agree with you. It is a matter of choice (to have a child or have an abortion). I don’t believe anyone chooses lightly, but to take a person’s choice away as some would like to do is unconscionable. I fear that back alley butchers would return if Roe v. Wade is overturned. And poverty would certainly dog those who would be forced to rear a child for a lifetime.

    1. I predate Roe v Wade by about 30 years and can’t imagine a return to those years. Common decency demands that women be allowed to decide what happens to their bodies and their lives without the interference of anonymous third parties. Mutual respect. It’s not an extreme position.

... and that's my two cents