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Initial thoughts on the Florida condo collapse

Champlain Towers South in Surfside, Florida, collapsed on June 24 at approximately 1:30 am

This only happens in third world countries.

It looks like the Murrah Building in OKC after McVeigh’s bomb.

” … like a foolish man, who built his house on the sand. The rain came down, the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat on that house; and it fell—and great was its fall.”  

Global warming and rising seas are real.

Occupants of any building should be given any engineering reports that indicate a hazard.

No one could have survived this.

People have survived for days in collapsed buildings.

If I lived in this building’s twin, I’d be moving out today.

The lawsuits will be countless — and justifiable.

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  1. I don’t know why they insist on building their blocks of houses so tall on such a poor base. From what I have read serious cracks were reported 18 months ago and nothing was done. Hence what happens. I watch alot of Miami NCIS and always marvel at the height of the buildings and how close to the waters edge they are. There is almost no height above sea level associated with the base of the buildings. Florida as a whole is very low lying and was mostly marsh land in the past. Certainly wouldn’t find me buying near the sea there.

    • Nor I. I’ve been to Florida twice and those trips just reinforced my perception that it’s mostly a giant sandbar in a miserably humid tropical climate. Obviously a lot of people enjoy living there and want to be near the ocean, but when that means building and living on unstable, porous soil, a high water table, landfills, sinkholes, etc., along with hurricanes … no thanks. And yes, Florida is at or near the top of the list of places in danger from rising seas. I’ve always preferred high ground and now I live happily at more than 5,000 feet. Of course Floridians would note that if the Yellowstone volcano ever blows, I’m in danger. But at least the ground under my feet is solid.

        • Unfortunately, that’s not the case. Denver sits in sort of a bowl with the mountains on the west side and has some of the dirtiest air in the country. It doesn’t help that the traffic is intense.

        • Oh, sorry to hear that. From what you said I assumed it was high up and in the clear air. I heard California is similar, they have mountains around the flat parts next to the sea. So the air coming from the sea is trapped in a basin by the mountains. That was why they went for clean air restrictions. Making electric cars, and less polluting energy generation a priority.

        • Like most major cities, Denver was founded along a river, which puts it lower than most of the immediately surrounding territory. Two major interstates cross right in the middle of town and both are always quite busy. The north-south one (I-25) parallels the mountains and the east-west one (I-70) is one of the few interstates that cuts through the Rocky Mountains in this part of the country. It’s also the main road connecting locals and tourists to Colorado’s ski areas. It’s a bit of a mess, but I wouldn’t want to live anyplace else, now that I’ve finally gotten here. I just avoid those two highways as much as possible.

        • I always imagined Colorado a mountainous barren area from cowboy films I used to watch years ago. Glad you like it though as alot of people seem to dislike where they live but have no way of making a change.

        • Many of those old Westerns were filmed in Utah, vast desert areas with photogenic buttes and mesas, and broad vistas. Some of far western Colorado looks like that. East of the Rockies is just rolling Great Plains. Grasslands mostly, kind of boring visually. The mountains that run north-south down the middle of the state are spectacular but too rugged for lots of moviemaking with sweeping vistas, horse chases, etc. Basically, the state looks like this:

        • Thanks for the depth of your reply, nice map. It is true to say, I think, that most films portray a private vision of the film maker, not necessarily fact.

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