More on those Romney/Ryan flag pins

24 thoughts on “More on those Romney/Ryan flag pins”

  1. I feel the same way, PT, as we discussed before. But why do we feel that way, apart from the Flag Code? After musing on the question I have settled on this: The American flag is unique and to decorate it with any other symbol not only dilutes its meaning but seems aimed at promoting some second cause as extra patriotic. Affixed with an elephant, in other words, the pin might mean that the wearer equates Republicans with patriotism more than, say, a donkey. It seems to be a competition of organizations for most patriotic. Does that make sense?

    1. Oh yes. Perfect sense. Stick anything on the flag — an elephant, a donkey, a Secret Service emblem — and that thing instantly becomes more patriotic. The flag gives it a credibility and gravitas it wouldn’t have otherwise. The reverse, however, is not true. Anything stuck on the flag diminishes the flag, IMO. Whether the Flag Code is applicable or not doesn’t matter to me. My personal sense of patriotism says the flag should not be diminished or embellished.

  2. Agree the flag should not be tarnished with other symbols. LOL,though, about Secret Service people wearing pins proclaiming who they are. Years back, I attended a training session in Washington, DC. It was held just a block down the street from the Russian embassy. One participant showed up every day wearing a name tag that said “SECRET SERVICE.” Asked about it during a break, he said, “Oh, they know who we are and we know who they are. It’s no secret around here.”

    1. I’d been thinking that a pin declaring you’re a member of the Secret Service kind of defeats the purpose. And if everybody knows who everybody is, what’s the point of pins at all? Ego?

  3. If Romney, Ryan or secret service can not afford a regular flag pin, maybe the public can chip in and purchase
    them one, As for the Secret Service They should be issued a miniature badge they can wear along with a
    flag pin that has not been messed with, that goes for the elephant

    1. I couldn’t agree more. With all the millions being donated to their campaign, a few nice, clean, unadorned flag pins shouldn’t be a problem. After all, if they’re so superpatriotic, you’d expect them to be setting the example, wouldn’t you?

      1. Grow up, indeed. Obviously, “Anonymous”, you or no one you know has been wounded or killed for wearing the US flag. Either that, or the empathic part of your brain is dead like your frontal lobe. In the meantime, shut the **** up.

        You’re right, PT, no matter what the organization, even if it is the Secret Service, nothing should be added to the flag. A separate pin should be worn. In my time, I didn’t get shot at repeatedly for wearing a US flag with a USSS star stuck on it! The US flag itself and what it represents was motivation enough for all concerned parties.

  4. But — wait… Secret Service & Mitt Romney are violating Federal Code? US Code 36, Chapter 10, §176. (g): “The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.” Source:

    1. Exactly. Thanks, SFMCAS, for looking that up and posting it.

      And thanks, PT, for solving the “black dot” mystery for us!

    2. So, the proposed leader of the free world starts out by disrespecting the emblem that he wishes to represent. Luckily, the flag code is not enforceable. Bigger is not always better, just more room for more unnecessary emblems to try to share the glory of old glory!!

      1. Obviously the disrespect wasn’t intentional. If anything, it’s clear the intention was to show respect to the flag and the Secret Service simultaneously. I would say he was let down by the Secret Service. They should know better, and more so than Mr. Romney. They shouldn’t have had this pin made in the first place.

        I’ll take “the proposed leader of the free world” Mr. Romney and his enhanced and incorrect lapel pin over the Borrow-in-Chief Mr. 0bama any day, and not soon enough. Debt: $17 trillion and counting = Good-bye freedom.

  5. The world is full of posers. I’m not up on American politicians (I have a low nausea threshold) but one should judge ’em by what they do, not by what they say. Appearances can be deceptive.

    Your ‘secret’ service wears badges declaring themselves SS agents? Cool~! (Totenkopf rings must be in vogue there too …)

    1. I don’t know when or if they wear them, or why they would. You’re not exactly “secret” if you wear a pin announcing you are “secret.” Maybe they just give them to people they are guarding.

  6. It would be nice if politicians under the flag lapel pin had the branch of military service they were in. This was we could see who the real patriotic peole are and those that just pretend. At a glance we could see those who are of age to have gone to Vietnam dodged service. For the younger ploiticains who voluntarily joined the military we could see that as well.

    1. I suspect most of them would rather not get into that since only about 20% of them have any military service to speak of. Frankly, I sort of resent the display of flag pins; it strikes me as people trying too hard to show they’re more patriotic than the next guy … or me.

... and that's my two cents